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Author Topic: Fake banknotes on Ebay  (Read 240 times)

Paxbrit

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Fake banknotes on Ebay
« on: March 20, 2017, 10:59:23 AM »
Check out this offer for fake banknotes.  Lots of material out there.  I think the watermark is actually inked, not certain.

It's a scary world.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/k43-Poland-1948-2-500-zloty-7-banknotes/291927884993

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Re: Fake banknotes on Ebay
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 12:34:35 PM »
Not cool at all.

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Re: Fake banknotes on Ebay
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 02:42:10 PM »
Another one

http://www.ebay.de/itm/172581543706?_trk...K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

All the specimens are fake, just a specimen stamp on non specimen banknotes

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Re: Fake banknotes on Ebay
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 08:33:09 PM »
I've noticed fake specimens now and then.  As I understand it, specimen banknotes should NEVER have regular serial numbers.

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Re: Fake banknotes on Ebay
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 02:02:04 AM »
The specimen question is really hard - I have seen such things that are to be sold (or also, really sold) which are obvious fakes, like the notes that had never existed, plus over-stamped with SPECIMEN stamp, but I tend to ignore such things (although sometimes I think of writing a warning on such garbage notes).

But on the serial numbers, there exist the specimens with valid numbers. E.g. with Bosnian Convertible Mark issue of 1998 (P-57 to P-70), which set I got from the Central Bank. These perforated specimens (the word "specimen" is made of holes) exist both with serial A0000000, as well as with normal serial number.

The note P-71 has only zero-numerated specimen, with added four digit specimen control number.

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Re: Fake banknotes on Ebay
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 11:44:03 PM »
Hmmm ... interesting.  Thanks for letting us know akaardvark387.  I can't make any sense of printing regular serial numbers on specimen banknotes, but it is what it is. 

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Re: Fake banknotes on Ebay
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 04:06:22 AM »
I think that the reason (to do so) in this case was that they have made some small number of specimen sets (these with zero serial), but needed later more of them to be given as presents to the guests of the bank. Such set also does not include P-60 (which was not released into circulation, and therefore not at stack to be added into the specimens set).

The notes are from 1998, but still in use, with two additional issues of 2008 and 2012. These do not have completely "random" numbers, but are either from the beginning or from the end of the range (e.g. A0001055 or B5009123 or A9999755 (I will check exact numbers later)).

If I would see such note with the number e.g. A1352042, then I would probably doubt it immediately.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 04:09:55 AM by akaardvark387 »

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Re: Fake banknotes on Ebay
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2017, 11:00:19 AM »
I don't think any of the fakes referred to above were produced by any government, these are commercially-made copies intended to defraud.

I don't recall seeing any official Specimens with SNs other than A00000000 or similar.